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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by wspeedin View Post
    I cant remember if those ligths that installed on those nautiques are flood lights or spotlights. I will have to check with my buddy who does the installs.

    Again, I am going to reiterate the fact that those pictures that I sent Jet are 100% legit and unedited. We ride around in the saem clarity water as most of you on this site do. It is water that is murky, dirty and dark. The amount of visiblity in the water is about a foot. Yes, I cannot wait to see them on Jet's boat!

    Please understand that this product is NEVER going to be as bright as ShadowCasters, but for $20 each you cannot beat this deal. The lights come in an array of colors and I have seen no difference in output from the color swap. Red is just as bright as blue as green as purple as white as...you get the picture? I have personally rode behind many boats with these lights installed on the back and they light up a surf wave GREAT!!!

    I will be going up to WaveNoize Audio & Lighting this weekend and I will find a boat that has them installed and snap some pics of the mounting. I would take a picture of them in the water but I would jsut be wasting my time since you can obviously see what they look like in those UNEDITED photos.
    Didn't mean to rile you up man. I wasn't trying to compare them to ShadowCasters. I just used the image of mine to show how an image can be dialed up for effect. Wasn't trying to say they aren't good or anything like that. I just like to make sure if someone does a project they don't go into it, and then come out disappointed due to misled conception. As I stated in my post, I thought the images exposure rate was dialed up. To be honest I still do. Exposure is adjusted in the camera, not photoshop. But that's my opinion. Not me saying, I know for a fact that those images are doctored. Just what I observe. I look at a cloud, and you say you see a squirrel, I may say I see boobs. It's observation.

    And not to be a buzzkill, but the light output is not the same, even Oznium says so. The graph that I linked shows the lumen output. The blue lights are the lowest. I even talked to Oznium about it. Blue is the hardest light in the spectrum to gain output from. I only said that so people would understand the difference. The pictures you show are the green and red lights, better output. So if you were like me, you might think about placement and quantity beforehand, rather than find out after the fact.

    It's all good man, I didn't challenge you after you said that you were there. Don't get all serious on us all of a sudden.


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    Oh man, its all good. I completely understand what you are saying about the photos but i was jsut wanting to be specific about the conditions and what not. I cannot comment on whether or not the exposure on the actual camera is turned up or not since I was not the one taking the pictures at the time. However, I can attest to them looking very bright and clear in the water in real life.
    As far as the light output vs color, i would expect those kind of number variables in all light maunfacturers. What I was trying to point out was that if you wanted to go with blue instead of red or whatever than you should. You really will not notice that much of a difference. Maybe you could put an extra bulb in the build to accomodate that particular color? who knows.

    I think jet is installing red leds so he will get the brightest of the colors I would assume. I have seen all the colors installed and red is by far the nicest looking. Now, one thing I have alwasy wondered was how long will they last? I have seen them installed on a boat, actually the white nautique with the NC State logo, that has had them since 2008 and they seem to be just as bright as the day they were installed. However, that boat doesnt sit in the water overnight and always stays in a garage. I would think that if they are exposed to the elements for a long length of time than they may not hold up to well...but again, who knows.
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    I'm actually wondering if you did like your buddies, and stagger them along the stern, but do a spot light, then a floodlight, then a spotlight, etc, etc. I wonder if that would create a more broad effect versus direct beams?

    I'm going to take that blue flood light down to the docks tonight and see how it works.

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    I really don't like the profile of that light that jet posted, it seems way too bulky to me. I assume that's a "floodlight"? Is the oznium "spotlight" a lower profile?

    I'm just not sure of having that bulbous housing sticking out on my transom. I'd love to see the installation pics of those two boats from the oznium website in daylight to get an idea of what they look like from profile view as well as head on.

    Will any chance you can take those and post since you said your heading up to that store?( I assume the boats are there?)

    Jet did you finish your install?
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    I did but now Im going to change them like on the white boat. I thought a clust would be ok since the shadow casters are like that but a wide spetrum would be better I think. Im working on other stuff now but will get back to it later. Im going with red because my boats red. i didnt like the red at 1st but Dusty talked me into why they are a great color. I really like all of the colors now but red is my boat color. I am also doing a transom stip too so more pics later.
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    Yeah, no problem, I will take some pictures when I am up there this weekend and post them in this thread.
    They really arent too bulky. They are about an 1 1/2 in diameter and they probably protrude about an inch from the transom. When they are mounted under the swim platform you really cant even tell that they are there.

    Haugy, I am thinking that the one that he installs are the spotlight version but I am not certain. Im thinking that I had asked him that question before and his answer was something along the lines that the flood jsut wasnt dense enough to go through the water and so that the spotlight version put out a good projection and then just put them spaced out correctly to fill the void/gap. However, I could be wrong about that. I will check with him this weekend about it.
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    Just though I'd throw in an unsolicited general comment on light output vs visible light underwater. Don't be suprised if the blue lights actually looked brighter & throw farther than the red in the water (even with less lumen output). Water absorbs the different light frequencies preferentially in order of the rainbow. Red and Yellow are absorbed first with green and blue last. Don't know how the specific Oznium's will compare, but if they were of equal output - the blue would project farther underwater.
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    Thats what I heard that red had low output. NOT ME..the led's!!
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    Re-did my led's this weekend. Didnt like the way the looked after it was done. After talking more with Mr Speed and looking at the pictures from Oznium, I did like the spread of the lights going all the way across insted of a cluster or a downward blast of light on the other mfr's. Im still 1-2 months away from being on the water so night time pic's will havce to wait. Hope you like them. Jet

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    I like version 2 alot! Anxious to see how these perform. You need to hurry up!
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